Monthly Archives: July 2018
Rebuttal to MadLuv
In rebuttal to MadLuv
D’oh.
“Molecular Clock” and “Human Population Bottleneck”, LOOK THEM UP.
There were never only two humans, the Adam and Eve tale is a mere fable as are the eight of Noah’s Ark impossible. it is 2018, you are without excuse.
Gen 1:27; “God created man in His own image, in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them”
Gen 2:7; “Then the LORD God formed man of dust from the ground”
Gen 2:27; “The LORD God fashioned into a woman the rib which He had taken from the man, and brought her to the man.”
You needn’t look for nor at Sumerian literature, the Bible provides it’s very own conflicting accounts.
Oh, and, put into ‘Creationist’ terms, if the LORD God formed man of dust, why is there still dust? And, If the LORD God fashioned woman from man’s rib, why do men still have ribs? (And nipples???)
At 02:57 you state; “..just so you know not a lot of Sumerian literature has survived..”, well, just so you know, very few original Bible texts have survived, LOOK IT UP.
This lack of thought for the continued provenance of ‘His’ inviolate ‘Word’ rather negates claims and assertions of omnipotence and omniscience.
Compare ‘God’s’ failed provenance with the success of Hammurabi who’s Code predates the earliest Biblical writings by several centuries, and the original still exists today. “Hammurabi’s Stone”, LOOK IT UP.
The stone that has provided continual provenance for the Law Code of Hammurabi, king of Babylon of the 18th Century B.C. is on display at the Louvre in Paris;
https://www.louvre.fr/en/oeuvre-notices/law-code-hammurabi-king-babylon
At 03:17 you said; “..wait wait wait a second this tablet said that the Sumerian gods got tired huh well the God of the Bible it doesn’t get tired..”; EXCUSE ME but, Gen 2:2 explicitly states “By the seventh day God completed His work which He had done, and He rested on the seventh day from all His work which He had done”, have you not read the entire chapter?
At 03:25 you state; “..my lord God created the entire universe.., ‘Created’? Please do tell, ‘created’ from what exactly, ex-nihilo?
Ex-nihilo, true nothing, no atoms, no photons, no quarks,no muons, no quantum fluctuations, no time, no space, not even a void as a void requires dimensions to define it and there are no dimensions in ex-nihilo. Within/without this ex-nihilo where there is nothing, nothing has ever happened, there is nothing to know is where you must place your imagined ‘God’ and then the nowhere that is the there of ex-nihilo is where your imagined ‘God’ must create via Magick. From nothing, comes nothing, if ex-nihilo ever was, it would still be unless via Magick. Do you believe in Magick? Is that where you place your imagined ‘God’, Magick in ex-nihilo?
Yeah, I know already, you’re going to assert the Big Bang (wrongly named) was the handclap of ‘God’ in a weak attempt at merging your myth with scientific findings, nope, don’t do that because “Event Horizon”, LOOK IT UP.
Current science can’t theorize what preceded the mis-called ‘Big Bang’, science can only hypothesize the topic. No scientist hypothesizes existence from ex-nihilo, they can’t, won’t.
Religion confidently proclaims that very thing via Magick, which cannot be known.
Also, grasp the real definition of “Scientific Theory” before ever replying “it’s only a theory”.
At 04:10 you state “..My God Resurrects..”
HOLD ON.
The most essential and extraordinary claim of Christianity is alleged Jesus’ alleged resurrection yet there’s not a single biblical witness to the actual event. Here are all four, differing, accounts, NO ONE saw Him rise. https://blog.answersinnumbers.org/the-empty-tomb
Tell me please, who witnessed the actual (alleged) resurrection? Who (allegedly) saw Him rise?
NO ONE felt a cold, stiff corpse start to warm, a stilled heart begin to pulse, eyelids begin to flutter. NO ONE.
Further, as ‘Your ‘God” is immortal, immortals cannot die, even if Jesus went to be crucified, He well knew in advance it was no big deal to Him but it would be, and obviously was, a great, propagandic recruiting tool.
As far as sightings of Jesus following the crucifixion, they were obviously cases of mistaken identity as described in John 20:15 where Mary Magdalene mistook someone for the (a?) gardener,
described in John 21:1-4 where none among Simon Peter, and Thomas called Didymus, and Nathanael of Cana in Galilee, and the sons of Zebedee, and two others of His disciples recognized ‘Him’.
And described, yet again, in Luke 24:16, two disciples, one of them Cleopas, the other whom Luke couldn’t be bothered to name failed to recognize ‘Him’.
At 04:32 you state “.. then we have the Sumerian gods who apparently got tired from mowing the yard created man for slavery..”
From Genesis 2:5; “.. and there was no man to cultivate the ground”, ‘God’ apparently found yard work as distasteful as the Sumerian gods and also ‘Created’ man for slavery as slavery is notable endorsed and condoned throughout the bible, see;
By the way, mowing, you’re doing it wrong, all wrong;
Nay, you were never Atheist, you were merely indifferently ignorant of both science and religion, you got sucked in by the first lying proselytizers who came along and encountered your innocent credulity and recognized an easy mark when they saw one.
A quote (perhaps wrongly) attributed to Mark Twain; “Religion was invented when the first con man met the first fool.” fits you well here.
A tweet quote from Neil deGrasse Tyson
Science literacy empowers you to know when someone else is full of shit.
— Neil deGrasse Tyson (@neiltyson) May 2, 2018
A Ken Ham Twitter quote;
Ken Ham
@aigkenham
If you cannot trust God’s Word in Genesis, then why trust what it says throughout the rest of Scripture?
— Ken Ham (@aigkenham) August 17, 2017
Sadly, you are ignorant of science literacy, but in fairness, ignorance is not a fault nor a shortcoming, it’s merely a state of never haven been exposed to a topic.
Once exposed and refusing to learn, that’s stupidity and it’s one’s own fault, and a thing open to mockery.
It’s 2018, you are without excuse.
Oh, your prayer streams, if prayer worked, there’d be no hospitals, no medical science.
Prayer is an act of doubt, a lack of faith that your imaginary, omnipotent deity doesn’t know your every thought, want, need, that He needs you to tell Him where His mysterious plan is wrong and that you know better.
Maybe ‘God’ gets off on hearing you grovel.
Or
Maybe you get off on groveling.
Seriously, do you believe a serpent and a donkey spoke?
Ron D’vivre