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An extended continuation of a Twitter Direct Messaging conversation.

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That’s it, you see the point about Finkelstein and his work.

Given all the education, experience and expertise necessary, every tool and resource including unfettered access to the very lands where events allegedly happened all available along with fervent motivation, findings and scriptures both had to be fudged to make the pieces fit.

Finkelstein’s resulting publication was extremely unsatisfying.

And that’s the point.

Odd you should bring up the plagues of Exodus.

That one shows god at his worst.

Ten plagues, each time, god tells Moses beginning in Exodus 7:3

“…I will harden Pharaoh’s heart…”

Again and again for each plague, god suppresses Pharaoh’s free will so as to passive aggressively manipulate the situation in a way that allows a twisted and immoral justification for the heinous sins god intends committing.

Exodus 9:8-11, the 6th plague

Exodus 9:11

“The magicians could not stand before Moses because of the boils that were on them and on all the Egyptians.’

That’s hilarious. Just the thing an 11 year old boy would come up with, finally, Pharaoh’s magicians are unable to stand and work their magic because they’re rolling on the ground itching all over. LOLOLOLOL

Finally in the Exodus plague tales, god kills every innocent firstborn!!! WHAT? He demands worship? He can demand worship all he wants, he must earn respect.

All throughout the bible god treats humans as toys for his wicked pleasure.

he treats us as though toy soldiers out of an eternally refilling bucket.

All through history, the same, if it is accepted that god meddles in human affairs.

WWII for example, Hanover, Dresden, London, Berlin, Tokyo, all bombed mercilessly as god watches delighted. Whee!! Looky there what they do to each other.

Finally, Hiroshima and Nagasaki, even god sobers at this, leaves us to ponder in fear if, when or where next.

Meanwhile, 1939 -1945, billions of prayers are said, plaintively and sincerely begging for an end to the war while 80 million die. god answered none of these prayers.

Or, god was on the side of the Axis. Gott Mit Uns was on German Army belt buckles, Japan’s Emperor was revered as god.

Thank god I found my keys. God was with us in our football game victory. Really?

Oh, right, god works in mysterious ways.

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“A False Positive Refuted” at http://goo.gl/z6NNMz was apparently not making it’s point well. I tried to be brief, it remained unclear to too many, I’ve since expanded and elaborated considerably.

I must admit, I have not yet read the complete bible, at this point I’m undecided if I’ll complete the task or not.

I started with Revelations, found that nothing but writings of an hallucinating author, written much like Hunter S. Thompson on an extended bender.

Cannabis, opiates, peyote cactus and psilocybin mushrooms all grew wild in the Middle East then as now, completely unregulated back then.

Any mention of or prohibitions against these substances in the bible? If not, why would that be? Perhaps the bible’s unknown scribes didn’t want to expose or lose their real source of inspiration?

Abraham, Noah’s Flood, The Exodus, all make a lot of sense when viewed as hallucinogenic inspired.

Abe’s voices in his head.

Noah’s locally catastrophic flood conflated to worldwide proportions.

Moses the murdering fugitive and 20 buddies lost in the desert a few weeks hallucinates a huge following, oh man, we were lost what seemed forever.

Tales got drastically conflated, became myths taught to children, complacently accepted without question as truth by adults, repeated for millenia.

Sorry, I’m not unquestioningly complacent, refuse to base my life’s values on these fabrications.

There is just too much knowledge available resulting from human inquiry and it’s so readily available.

Answers to questions purportedly addressed in the bible have turned out false when closely scrutinized. bible scribes knew and wrote only of the pedestrian, had no knowledge of the cosmic or microscopic.

bible scribes thought the earth was flat, stars could fall to earth, leprosy was incurable, Pi a round number.

I did get through Numbers.

Decided that what I’d read to that point was nonsense, the god presented worthy only of contempt and disdain. Rejected.

I think it not worth my time, effort and study, beneath rational intellect. Useful only for articulate argument.

And, back to my blog post, allegedly revealed scriptures and gods described therein are all irrelevant. If a god is not Universal, it is only an imaginary god.

Any and all bible specific discussions are moot, have no more real value than discussions of J.R.R. Tolkien’s, J.K. Rowling’s or Anne Rice’s work.

By the way, any of those three modern fiction writers could have written a far more cohesive bible had they chosen to do so.

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From https://youtu.be/wQbkubqG_ZA

How We Stop ISIS – Waleed Aly (The Project)

Waleed begins;

Granted, out of context, he’s referring to ISIS’ being weak

“…it’s the truth, and they don’t want you to know it which is why it’s something we should talk about…”

“.. how do we know? Because ISIL told us they don’t want you to know that..”

@0:43;
“… so that they appear bigger and tougher than they actually are…”

True enough. They are not, and we’d best hope they never become tough enough for a WWII style military invasion, massive airborne bombing campaigns and the like. Or worse, like aquiring WMDs.

However, they are plenty tough enough to carry out exactly the sort of campaigns they choose, current events confirm this.

It matters not whether attacks are funded by Syria or by ISIS through other means or whether attacks are inspired by spread of ideology.

If ISIS’ projected level of toughness is all bluster is irrelevant, they are still tough enough to perpetrate horrors

@0:59;
“…ISIL didn’t control these guys, they were DIY terrorists…”

Really? Spreading hateful ideology is not ‘control’? While DIYers may well have been outside of what is considered usual command and control structures, terror operations are often freelance and improvisational in nature while still in conformance with established ideological and tactical principles.

@2:06;
“…strategy is to split the world into two camps…”

Note the use of future tense, as though this is a goal yet to be accomplished.

@2:12;
“.. again, we know this because they told us..”

@2:15 he explains with an accompanying text graphic that;
“…last year…
….there is no grayzone…
…the World has split …”.
Note the use of past tense.

The split that was merely a goal eight seconds ago was actually already reality at least as early as last year. I think it safe to say it’s been split much longer.

@2:54;
“… they want countries like ours… … vilify them…”

@3:34;
“…saying that out loud is both dumbfounding in it’s stupidity and blood curdling in its barbarity…”

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Outsiders to islam need to understand that islam is very unlike every other religion.

One of their precepts is a scripturally commanded obligation to actively spread islam and shar’ia law worldwide by any and all means possible including the use of 5^th columnists and mass migration.

Another scripturally commanded obligation is to lie to the Kafirs being invaded about their true intent.

Look up shari’a, taquia (takiyya), kitman, tawriya and muruna, see what you can learn.

Now, I admit total unfamiliarity with this commentator Waleed Aly, this video is the first I’ve seen of him.

The impression I get of him from this video is one of a deeply embedded 5^th columnist attempting to downplay the power and effectiveness of ISIS’ operations all the while current events dramatically demonstrate otherwise.

@2:58, without naming it outright, he plays the islamophobia card as in mockery of an Australian MP as she explains the need to look at the teachings of the qur’an. She is 100% correct.

It is to the folly of Kafirs to ignore the teachings of the qur’an, paraphrasing Waleed Aly, “…because their book tells us so…”

Everything I see and hear in this video when critically reviewed contradicts the superficial message and points directly to 5^th column apologetics.

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If Waleed Aly is the sincere and peace desiring man he presents to be, his obligation is the complete renunciation of islam and all its precepts.

As lying is a major precept, no Kafir should ever take any muslim at his or her word. Again, “ because their book tells us so”.

If Waleed Aly is the sincere and rational man he presents himself to be, realization that any god that is not universal is no god at all should not stress his intellect, Allah does not exist, muhammed is a false prophet.

Waleed Aly, in his position as an esteemed and noted broadcast personality is perfectly positioned to spread these enlightened concepts.

Does he lean at all in this direction? I haven’t seen his catalog, only this single video.

Without rejection of childish beliefs in non-universal gods and conflicts over these beliefs, humanity is doomed to continued horrors, universal brotherhood and love can never be achieved.

Waleed Aly’s message here appears to be one intended to placate populations currently being invaded.

I’m not buying placation. Are you?

While a negative cannot be proved nor disproved, a false positive claim can be refuted.

TL:DR version;
god is Universal or else not god at all.

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All religions are false as they are based on childish fantasy tales that do not stand the scrutiny of inquiry and reality.

Number one, and please, please try and grasp this concept wholeheartedly, if a real god existed and was both omnipotent and omniscient, it would be a Universal god common to and known by every human on the planet, every human now alive and all who ever lived.

No such god exists, none has ever existed.

Such a god, having the ability to monitor every human’s every action and thought would also be able to directly communicate it’s existence, thoughts and wishes throughout all of its creation.

Being able to communicate directly rules out the need for any clerics as conduits.

Such a god needs no apologists.

Such a god needs no tithes.

Such a god does not demand worship, rather, earns respect.

No such god exists, none has ever existed.

Such a god could not, would not have a ‘chosen’ people chosen over others of its creation.

Such a god could not, would not demand one group of its people to demean, devalue and/or outright kill those of other groups of it’s people, it is truly absurd and immoral to believe otherwise.

Clerics have created, commandeered and manipulated ancient myths for centuries, manipulatively exploiting the naive, gullible, innocent and wholesome for their own personal profit, power, position and prestige. Evil governmental and financial interests in turn support and exploit religious systems for their own nefarious and greedy purposes.

Clerics are the disciples and embodiment of evil though they work hard and successfully to convince their followers otherwise.

It’s an individual’s choice to decide if clerics tell the truth or if they are intentionally deceptive and manipulative or honestly deceived themselves.

A real god if it existed and desired to reveal itself, its desires, rules and laws through a revealed scripture, such a scripture would be written in such a way as to be clear, understandable and available to and by every human everywhere with no interpretation needed or even possible.

It would be written, presented and distributed in such a way as to be impossible to copy or translate incorrectly, this, after all, is an omnipotent and omniscient being doing the writing.

No such scripture exists.

If you’re still here reading, ask yourself the following questions regarding your god and your scripture.

Decide then if the answers you find within yourself came from concepts you were taught to believe or if you were able to determine the answers yourself through rational thought based on evidence or lack of evidence.

What is your proof to yourself and how did you determine that proof?

Is your god the omnipotent creator of everything including all living things?

Is this god known to all humans?

Does this god have a ‘chosen’ people he favors over others of its creation? Has it commanded its ‘chosen’ to commit genocide on others of its creation? Is this concept not self-contradictory and highly immoral?

Does this god demand tithes?

For what purpose?

An omnipotent non-corporeal deity has no use for material things.

If, as according to scripture, it created everything, then everything belongs to it.

Does this god communicate directly with its humans?

Or do shamen, witch doctors and charlatans claim to be its oracles?

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Through many twitter conversations it appears the explanation above of a Universal god is not explained well enough.

Let’s apply some imagination.

Imagine it possible to leave earth and the plane of the solar system to a position that we can view the solar system effectively looking down or up upon the solar system and that we can see the solar system in it’s entirety.
From this distance, we may need a telescope to see Earth at all, at best Earth will appear as a small spec of rock or dust.
From this position we can also get a sense of the grandeur and expanse of our own Milky Way galaxy, a view of our nearby galactic neighbors, twinkling of distant galaxies.
From here we can also get an inkling of the very vast expanse of time on a cosmic scale.

Done with that imaginary space traveling exercise, back on Earth.
If an all powerful deity exists or did once exist that created the cosmos and everything in it, such a deity would be a grand being indeed.

If such a deity had consciousness and wished to reveal itself to its human creations it would reveal itself to ALL its human creations, not just a select few illiterate or barely literate desert dwelling, herders, traders and peasants.
Such a deity would not, could not rationally have a ‘chosen’ people commanded to genocidally eliminate it’s neighbors yet Abrahamic religious followers are commanded exactly that.

There is a meme circulating on Twitter showing the small area of influence where all Abrahamic allegedly revealed scriptural events occurred, It is re-posted here with author unknown and credit impossible.

How is it possible for anyone with a working intellect to believe that an all powerful deity that created the grand and majestic Cosmos and chooses to involve itself in the affairs of humankind would or even could reveal to and concern itself with only the inhabitants of such a relatively small geographical area?

How is it possible to surrender the use of one’s intellect to the degree required to believe an all powerful deity would impose thousands of different sets of rules and demands on different tribes and cultures throughout the World?

If there is or was an all powerful deity that chose to involve itself in and with humanity’s affairs and reveal itself to humanity, the only rational possibility is that this deity would reveal itself coherently to all humans when and where ever they lived.

Such a deity would be obvious, apparent and UNIVERSAL to all of humanity, would need no rabbis, priests nor mullahs to explain and interpret it’s intents.
Any truly revealed scripture would be written in such a way as to be unalterable even when translated, a writing ability to be expected from an all powerful being.

A truly revealed scripture could not contain erroneous myths easily refuted by continually accumulating and advancing human knowledge, myths such as Creation, Adam and Eve, Noah’s Flood and The Exodus.
Instead a truly revealed scripture should and would contain concise answers regarding the origins of The Cosmos, The Earth and Life, it would contain instructions how to deal with all diseases effectively.

There could be no arguments nor disagreements yet arguments and disagreements never stop.

That apologetics exist and flourish insults  and instantly refutes the veracity, the truths, of allegedly revealed scriptures.
An all powerful, true and real deity needs no one and no thing making apologies and/or excuses for it.

No belief nor faith in unapparent and unverifiable alleged truths would be needed if a real god chose to reveal itself.

“We believe in one God,
the Father, the Almighty,
maker of heaven and earth,
and of all that is, seen and unseen….”
Is THE base falsehood that all with a functional intellect should question and challenge.

“There is on earth among all dangers no more dangerous thing than a richly endowed and adroit reason… Reason must be deluded, blinded, and destroyed.”
Martin Luther, quoted by Walter Kaufmann, The Faith of a Heretic, (Garden City, NY, Doubleday, 1963), p. 75

Do you accept Luther’s edict condemning your intellect?

Or;

1 Corinthians 13:11
“When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child. But, when I became a man, I put away the things of a child.”

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god is infinite, immortal, omnipotent, omniscient.

Jesus is god, son of god.
god impregnated Mary with himself so god could have himself killed.

Jesus sits at the right hand of the father for all of eternity.

Jesus died on the cross to redeem humans from inherited original sin yet we all still carry that sin.

Immortal Jesus died.

Original sin was disobedience to the command to not eat the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.

Can and does any human prefer humans that have no knowledge of good and evil?

Would, could or should god prefer humans that have no knowledge of good and evil?